{"id":13088,"date":"2024-06-25T13:48:10","date_gmt":"2024-06-25T13:48:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/?p=13088"},"modified":"2024-06-25T14:13:37","modified_gmt":"2024-06-25T14:13:37","slug":"llms-are-really-bad-at-solving-simple-river-crossing-puzzles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/sv\/2024\/06\/llms-are-really-bad-at-solving-simple-river-crossing-puzzles\/","title":{"rendered":"LLM:er \u00e4r riktigt d\u00e5liga p\u00e5 att l\u00f6sa enkla flodkorsningspussel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Stora spr\u00e5kmodeller som GPT-4o kan utf\u00f6ra otroligt komplexa uppgifter, men \u00e4ven de b\u00e4sta modellerna k\u00e4mpar med vissa grundl\u00e4ggande resonemangsutmaningar som barn kan l\u00f6sa.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I en intervju med CBS sa \"AI:s gudfader\", Geoffrey Hinton, att AI-system kan vara mer intelligenta \u00e4n vi vet och att det finns en risk att maskinerna tar \u00f6ver.<\/p>\n<p>P\u00e5 fr\u00e5gan om niv\u00e5n p\u00e5 dagens AI-teknik svarade Hinton: \"Jag tror att vi \u00e4r p\u00e5 v\u00e4g in i en period d\u00e5 vi f\u00f6r f\u00f6rsta g\u00e5ngen n\u00e5gonsin kan ha saker som \u00e4r mer intelligenta \u00e4n oss.\"<\/p>\n<p>Metas chef AI-forskare, Yann LeCun, vill f\u00e5 oss att tro att vi \u00e4r l\u00e5ngt ifr\u00e5n att se AI uppn\u00e5 till och med intelligens p\u00e5 \"hundniv\u00e5\".<\/p>\n<p>S\u00e5 vilken \u00e4r det?<\/p>\n<p>Den h\u00e4r veckan har anv\u00e4ndare p\u00e5 X publicerat exempel p\u00e5 den otroliga kodningsf\u00f6rm\u00e5ga som Anthropics <a href=\"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/sv\/2024\/06\/anthropic-releases-claude-sonnet-3-5-which-beats-gpt-4o\/\">ny <span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\"><span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\"><span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\">Claude<\/span><\/span><\/span> modell<\/a> utst\u00e4llningar. Andra genomf\u00f6rde experiment f\u00f6r att belysa hur AI-modeller fortfarande har sv\u00e5rt med mycket grundl\u00e4ggande resonemang.<\/p>\n<h2>Pussel f\u00f6r att korsa flod<\/h2>\n<p>Det klassiska flodkorsningspusslet har flera variationer men <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wolf,_goat_and_cabbage_problem\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedias version<\/a> sammanfattar det s\u00e5 h\u00e4r:<\/p>\n<p>En bonde med en varg, en get och ett k\u00e5lhuvud m\u00e5ste ta sig \u00f6ver en flod med b\u00e5t. B\u00e5ten kan bara ta med sig bonden och ett enda f\u00f6rem\u00e5l. Om de l\u00e4mnas utan uppsikt tillsammans skulle vargen \u00e4ta upp geten eller geten \u00e4ta upp k\u00e5len. Hur kan de korsa floden utan att n\u00e5got blir upp\u00e4tet?<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r att hitta l\u00f6sningen kr\u00e4vs en del grundl\u00e4ggande planering och resonemang om olika scenarier, men det \u00e4r inte ett s\u00e4rskilt sv\u00e5rt problem att l\u00f6sa. Om du \u00e4r m\u00e4nniska.<\/p>\n<p>Kan GPT-4o l\u00f6sa det? Om du kopierar och klistrar in pusslet i ChatGPT f\u00e5r du r\u00e4tt svar, men den d\u00e4r Wikipedia-sidan fanns med st\u00f6rsta sannolikhet med i tr\u00e4ningsdatan.<\/p>\n<p>Vad h\u00e4nder om vi g\u00f6r pusslet mycket enklare och \u00e4ndrar det n\u00e5got s\u00e5 att LLM inte kan f\u00f6rlita sig p\u00e5 sina tr\u00e4ningsdata?<\/p>\n<p>Den brittiske matematikprofessorn Sir William Timothy Gowers visade hur LLM:s of\u00f6rm\u00e5ga att till\u00e4mpa logik l\u00e4tt kan avsl\u00f6jas.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_13099\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13099\" style=\"width: 1036px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13099 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1036\" height=\"1114\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT.png 1036w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT-279x300.png 279w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT-952x1024.png 952w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT-768x826.png 768w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT-11x12.png 11w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/River-crossing-puzzle-ChatGPT-60x65.png 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1036px) 100vw, 1036px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-13099\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">ChatGPT:s misslyckade f\u00f6rs\u00f6k att l\u00f6sa ett f\u00f6renklat pussel f\u00f6r att korsa en flod. K\u00e4llan \u00e4r: <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/wtgowers\/status\/1804565549789135256\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">X @wtgowers<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Det korrekta svaret p\u00e5 pusslet \u00e4r att endast en resa kr\u00e4vs. Men det verkar som om ChatGPT f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker komma ih\u00e5g ett svar snarare \u00e4n att bara resonera sig igenom pusslet.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c4r Claude Sonnet 3.5 n\u00e5got b\u00e4ttre?<\/p>\n<p>Meta Data Scientist Colin Frasers experiment bekr\u00e4ftar att \u00e4ven den ledande AI-modellen som f\u00f6r n\u00e4rvarande finns tillg\u00e4nglig inte kan l\u00f6sa detta enkla pussel.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\"><span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\"><span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\">Claude<\/span><\/span><\/span> kan fortfarande inte l\u00f6sa det om\u00f6jliga problemet med en bonde, ett f\u00e5r och en b\u00e5t <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/TU13wermLZ\">pic.twitter.com\/TU13wermLZ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>- Colin Fraser (@colin_fraser) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/colin_fraser\/status\/1803870308908048695?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">20 juni 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Det kan ha varit lite o\u00e4rligt f\u00f6r en datavetare fr\u00e5n Meta att inte visa sina resultat med hj\u00e4lp av Llama 3.<\/p>\n<p>Jag st\u00e4llde Meta AI samma fr\u00e5ga och det f\u00e5r ocks\u00e5 det helt fel.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_13094\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13094\" style=\"width: 1362px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-13094 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1362\" height=\"696\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle.png 1362w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle-300x153.png 300w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle-1024x523.png 1024w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle-768x392.png 768w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle-18x9.png 18w, https:\/\/dailyai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Llama-3-answer-to-river-crossing-puzzle-60x31.png 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1362px) 100vw, 1362px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-13094\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Meta AI som drivs av Llama 3 f\u00e5r ocks\u00e5 fel svar p\u00e5 flodpusslet. K\u00e4lla: Meta Meta<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Yann LeCun f\u00f6rklarade orsaken bakom dessa resultat med att s\u00e4ga: \"Problemet \u00e4r att LLM:er inte har n\u00e5got sunt f\u00f6rnuft, ingen f\u00f6rst\u00e5else f\u00f6r v\u00e4rlden och ingen f\u00f6rm\u00e5ga att planera (och resonera).\"<\/p>\n<p>\u00c4r det sant, eller \u00e4r det n\u00e5got annat som spelar in?<\/p>\n<p>Vad dessa interaktioner kan avsl\u00f6ja \u00e4r inte en brist p\u00e5 resonemangsf\u00f6rm\u00e5ga, utan snarare hur mycket utg\u00e5ngen fr\u00e5n en LLM p\u00e5verkas av dess tr\u00e4ningsdata. Meta AI: s svar som kallar detta ett \"klassiskt pussel\" antyder att detta kan vara vad som h\u00e4nder.<\/p>\n<p>Variationerna av flod\u00f6verg\u00e5ngspusslet h\u00e4nvisar ofta till antalet \"resor\" som kr\u00e4vs. N\u00e4r du l\u00e4gger pusslet utan att anv\u00e4nda det ordet l\u00f6ser LLM det.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Ja, verkligen. N\u00e4r det inte finns n\u00e5gon uppmaning till \"resor\", som ger minnen av tidigare l\u00f6sningar p\u00e5 s\u00e5 m\u00e5nga liknande problem, utan uppmaningen \"snabbast m\u00f6jliga s\u00e4tt\" tillsammans med COT, svarar den korrekt <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/E27vBv2y2R\">pic.twitter.com\/E27vBv2y2R<\/a><\/p>\n<p>- AnKo (@anko_979) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/anko_979\/status\/1804251359518036429?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">21 juni 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>De h\u00e4r experimenten var intressanta, men de ger inget definitivt svar p\u00e5 fr\u00e5gan om AI-modeller \u00e4r verkligt intelligenta eller om de helt enkelt \u00e4r f\u00f6ruts\u00e4gbara maskiner i n\u00e4sta led.<\/p>\n<p>Resultaten belyser dock hur k\u00e4nsliga LLM:er \u00e4r f\u00f6r tr\u00e4ningsdata. N\u00e4r GPT-4o klarar LSAT-proven, \"t\u00e4nker\" han d\u00e5 f\u00f6r att hitta svaren p\u00e5 problemen eller kommer han ih\u00e5g dem?<\/p>\n<p>S\u00e5 l\u00e4nge ingenj\u00f6rerna inte f\u00f6rst\u00e5r vad som h\u00e4nder inuti de svarta l\u00e5dor med AI som de har skapat kommer diskussionerna om X att forts\u00e4tta utan l\u00f6sning.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Stora spr\u00e5kmodeller som GPT-4o kan utf\u00f6ra otroligt komplexa uppgifter, men \u00e4ven toppmodellerna k\u00e4mpar med vissa grundl\u00e4ggande resonemangsutmaningar som barn kan l\u00f6sa. I en intervju med CBS sa \"AI:s gudfader\" Geoffrey Hinton att AI-system kan vara mer intelligenta \u00e4n vi tror och att det finns en risk att maskinerna tar \u00f6ver. P\u00e5 fr\u00e5gan om niv\u00e5n p\u00e5 den nuvarande AI-tekniken sa Hinton: \"Jag tror att vi g\u00e5r in i en period d\u00e5 vi f\u00f6r f\u00f6rsta g\u00e5ngen n\u00e5gonsin kan ha saker som \u00e4r mer intelligenta \u00e4n oss.\" Metas chef AI-forskare, Yann LeCun, kommer att f\u00e5 oss att tro att vi \u00e4r<\/p>","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":13095,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[84],"tags":[118],"class_list":["post-13088","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-industry","tag-llms"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>LLMs are really bad at solving simple river crossing puzzles | DailyAI<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/sv\/2024\/06\/llms-are-really-bad-at-solving-simple-river-crossing-puzzles\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"sv_SE\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"LLMs are really bad at solving simple river crossing puzzles | DailyAI\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Large language models like GPT-4o can perform incredibly complex tasks, but even the top models struggle with some basic reasoning challenges that children can solve. 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