{"id":15727,"date":"2026-10-30T10:51:37","date_gmt":"2026-10-30T09:51:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/?p=15727"},"modified":"2026-10-30T10:51:37","modified_gmt":"2026-10-30T09:51:37","slug":"deepseek-and-moonshot-used-gpt-6-astra-to-train-models-report-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dailyai.com\/es\/2026\/10\/deepseek-and-moonshot-used-gpt-6-astra-to-train-models-report-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Seg\u00fan un informe, DeepSeek y Moonshot utilizaron GPT-6 Astra para entrenar sus modelos."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Dos de los laboratorios de IA m\u00e1s conocidos de China se apoyaron en gran medida en GPT-6 Astra de OpenAI para entrenar sus modelos m\u00e1s recientes, seg\u00fan un informe de The Information. Moonshot AI se neg\u00f3 a hacer comentarios y DeepSeek no respondi\u00f3, seg\u00fan informes, entre ellos <a href=\"https:\/\/the-decoder.com\/openais-astra-becomes-the-main-target-for-chinese-ai-labs-after-anthropic-tightens-its-defenses\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">El decodificador<\/a>, que cita a The Information. La afirmaci\u00f3n proviene de fuentes an\u00f3nimas, pero se produce un mes despu\u00e9s de que OpenAI vinculara p\u00fablicamente una campa\u00f1a de extracci\u00f3n anterior con personas relacionadas con Moonshot.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lo que se inform\u00f3<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theinformation.com\/articles\/openais-astra-model-becomes-top-distillation-target-chinas-ai-labs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Informaci\u00f3n<\/a> El mi\u00e9rcoles 28 de octubre se inform\u00f3 que DeepSeek y Moonshot AI &quot;dependieron en gran medida&quot; de los resultados de GPT-6 Astra para construir sus modelos m\u00e1s recientes. La publicaci\u00f3n cit\u00f3 a personas con conocimiento directo del asunto. <a href=\"https:\/\/money.usnews.com\/investing\/news\/articles\/2026-10-28\/deepseek-moonshot-used-openais-gpt-6-astra-to-train-latest-models-the-information-reports\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Reuters<\/a> El medio public\u00f3 el informe el mismo d\u00eda, atribuy\u00e9ndolo a The Information.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Se mencionan dos modelos. El primero es el Kimi K3.1 Pro de Moonshot, lanzado la semana pasada. El segundo es el V4.1-Flash 1017 mejorado de DeepSeek, que se lanz\u00f3 el 17 de octubre. Seg\u00fan el informe, ambos se beneficiaron de la optimizaci\u00f3n de Astra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ninguna de las compa\u00f1\u00edas se ha pronunciado p\u00fablicamente sobre la afirmaci\u00f3n espec\u00edfica. No se ha publicado ninguna evidencia que muestre cu\u00e1nta producci\u00f3n de Astra se utiliz\u00f3 ni c\u00f3mo se recolect\u00f3. En julio, el director comercial de Moonshot, Huang Zhenxin, <a href=\"https:\/\/asiatimes.com\/2026\/07\/us-may-sanction-chinas-moonshot-for-distilling-anthropics-fable\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Negaron que su modelo Kimi K3 se derivara de modelos existentes.<\/a>, atribuy\u00e9ndose el m\u00e9rito de su propia arquitectura, un d\u00eda antes de que la Casa Blanca acusara a Moonshot de haber destilado el concepto de Fable de Anthropic para construir K3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Qu\u00e9 significa la destilaci\u00f3n<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La destilaci\u00f3n es un m\u00e9todo para entrenar un modelo de IA con las respuestas de otro. Un desarrollador env\u00eda a un modelo m\u00e1s avanzado una gran cantidad de preguntas, guarda sus respuestas y las utiliza como datos de entrenamiento. Aplicado a gran escala, puede ayudar a un modelo m\u00e1s peque\u00f1o o nuevo a adquirir algunas de las habilidades de un modelo avanzado de forma m\u00e1s r\u00e1pida y econ\u00f3mica que si se creara desde cero.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La t\u00e9cnica de dividir modelos complejos en otros m\u00e1s peque\u00f1os es com\u00fan y leg\u00edtima. La controversia radica en aplicarla al modelo de otra persona sin su autorizaci\u00f3n. Los principales laboratorios estadounidenses argumentan que esta pr\u00e1ctica permite a sus competidores copiar capacidades avanzadas de forma m\u00e1s r\u00e1pida y econ\u00f3mica.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">La acusaci\u00f3n anterior de OpenAI<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">El informe sigue a un <a href=\"https:\/\/openai.com\/index\/disrupting-a-coordinated-model-distillation-campaign\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">entrada del blog <span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\"><span class=\"noTranslate\" data-no-translation=\"\">OpenAI<\/span><\/span> Publicado el 30 de septiembre<\/a>. En el comunicado, OpenAI afirm\u00f3 haber detectado y detenido una campa\u00f1a coordinada para extraer el razonamiento protegido de sus modelos, es decir, el proceso interno que un modelo realiza antes de responder. La actividad comenz\u00f3 el 1 de julio y alcanz\u00f3 su punto m\u00e1ximo los d\u00edas 24 y 25 de julio, con 16\u00a0000 intentos de extracci\u00f3n por parte de m\u00e1s de 4000 usuarios. OpenAI indic\u00f3 haber detectado actividad relacionada en m\u00e1s de 15\u00a0000 usuarios y haberla interrumpido por completo el 28 de julio. Asimismo, afirm\u00f3 que la campa\u00f1a infring\u00eda sus t\u00e9rminos de servicio.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">OpenAI afirm\u00f3 que no estaba claro si todos los operadores observados proven\u00edan de un solo actor. Atribuy\u00f3 \u201cun grupo central de la actividad a individuos asociados con Moonshot AI, el desarrollador de Kimi\u201d. La publicaci\u00f3n no indicaba que se hubiera entrenado ning\u00fan modelo con la informaci\u00f3n extra\u00edda, ni mencionaba a Astra. OpenAI tambi\u00e9n afirm\u00f3 que no se hab\u00edan comprometido sistemas de cifrado, bases de datos ni conversaciones de usuarios almacenadas. Un portavoz de OpenAI declar\u00f3 que la empresa se toma el problema muy en serio., <a href=\"https:\/\/the-decoder.com\/openais-astra-becomes-the-main-target-for-chinese-ai-labs-after-anthropic-tightens-its-defenses\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">El decodificador inform\u00f3<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Por qu\u00e9 es importante<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Si el informe es preciso, sugiere que el bloqueo de cuentas a posteriori no ha impedido que los laboratorios chinos aprendan de los modelos de vanguardia estadounidenses. Esto plantea dudas sobre el grado de protecci\u00f3n que realmente ofrecen los t\u00e9rminos de la API. Otros laboratorios est\u00e1n probando soluciones t\u00e9cnicas. A principios de este mes, Anthropic anunci\u00f3 que las nuevas medidas hab\u00edan reducido la cantidad de datos extra\u00eddos en ataques de destilaci\u00f3n contra sus modelos Claude entre 90% y 99%, seg\u00fan inform\u00f3 Reuters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tambi\u00e9n existe una dimensi\u00f3n pol\u00edtica. OpenAI ha planteado la destilaci\u00f3n adversaria como un riesgo para la seguridad nacional, ya que las capacidades copiadas podr\u00edan no contar con las medidas de seguridad del modelo original.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Por ahora, la afirmaci\u00f3n principal se basa en fuentes an\u00f3nimas. Lo fundamental es observar si OpenAI confirma o a\u00f1ade detalles, y si DeepSeek o Moonshot responden.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Seg\u00fan informa The Information, citando fuentes an\u00f3nimas, DeepSeek y Moonshot AI se basaron en gran medida en los resultados de GPT-6 Astra para entrenar a Kimi K3.1 Pro y V4.1-Flash 1017.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":15726,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[642],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15727","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-security"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>DeepSeek, Moonshot Used GPT-6 Astra to Train Models: Report<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The Information reports DeepSeek and Moonshot distilled OpenAI&#039;s GPT-6 Astra to train their newest models. 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